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		<title>Comment on Contact us! by Nancy F. Qubain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy F. Qubain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Editor of Brackety-Ack::

	I would like to clear up some of the misconceptions about the Palestinians in connection with the controversy at Roanoke College over flying the Palestinian flag.  I am the secretary/treasurer of the Hope Fund, which began sponsoring Palestinian students at Roanoke College in August 2001.  Our students do well scholastically, but also represent Palestinian society to their classmates.   For the past decade  Roanoke College has not only had a policy of admitting more Palestinian students, but has also accepted students from many other parts of the globe, because they bring different perspectives to enrich the whole college community.    Presently there are six Palestinian students at Roanoke College, most of whom are Hope Fund students.  

	The official Palestinian political entity which the United States and the world recognize is the Palestinian Authority, which, while not a state, governs  the West Bank and Gaza in the shadow of the armed might of the Israeli military,  the expansion of Israeli settlements, and crushing Israeli restrictions on Palestinian life.    Any peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians will be between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority, whose flag is the Palestinian flag being flown at Roanoke College. 

	Between 1947 and 1949 the Israelis expelled the Palestinians, who feared for their lives, from their homeland with no compensation for their property.  The Palestinians  fled to the surrounding Arab states who were then just emerging from a colonial status.  Outside of Jordan the Palestinians have not been absorbed into the structure of Arab society in their host countries.   The political order in the Middle East is a delicate balance between different communities who each maintain their own identity.  The community, not the individual, is what determines one’s status. Many educated Palestinians emigrated to the United States, Europe, and other countries.  Those that settled in other  Arab lands did not become citizens of those states.  Many Palestinians – particularly the well educated – have found work in the Gulf, but they remain Palestinians and not many are citizens of Gulf countries.     If political relations sour between the Arab host country and the Palestinian Authority, all Palestinians in that country can be expelled as what happened with Libya and also with Kuwait during the first Gulf War.   Thus Palestinians move around and oftentimes our students were born outside Palestine, but now reside there.  

Many Palestinians working abroad send money home to their families, who often live in squalid refugee camps.  In Lebanon the Palestinians live in their own enclaves called camps, which they administer – not the Lebanese government.  Even if they were born in Lebanon,  Palestinians are not citizens.  In fact they cannot own property and most desirable jobs are denied them.  They attend United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)  schools  and not Lebanese schools.  Palestinians do not have Lebanese passports, but instead have a laissez passé document.  In the past our students have carried the Lebanese – and not the Palestinian flag – at events at Roanoke College, even though they were not Lebanese citizens.  

	Jordan has given citizenship to some Palestinians from the West Bank, because Jordan once controlled that area, but Jordan ignores Palestinians from former Egyptian controlled Gaza.  These are left in squalid, miserable camps .  The Egyptians control their border with Gaza and  decide which Gazans can cross into Egypt.   They do not want a flood of Palestinians.

	Thus Arab states do not see the Palestinians as their   domestic problem.    They sympathize and support the Palestinian cause, but not on their turf, since they can upset the political balance in the country as what happened in Lebanon before the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the early 1980’s.    Instead to them it is Israel’s problem, since they were the ones that drove  out the Palestinians. 

 So many Palestinians have become a landless and stateless people living in the diaspora.   While  Palestinian society is fractured between various states,  they have maintained their unique identity and long for a return to their homeland.  Above all they yearn for justice and a vindication for what happened to them.  They want their own identity,  dignity and land as symbolized in their flag.    
 
							Nancy F. Qubain
							Lexington, Virginia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Editor of Brackety-Ack::</p>
<p>	I would like to clear up some of the misconceptions about the Palestinians in connection with the controversy at Roanoke College over flying the Palestinian flag.  I am the secretary/treasurer of the Hope Fund, which began sponsoring Palestinian students at Roanoke College in August 2001.  Our students do well scholastically, but also represent Palestinian society to their classmates.   For the past decade  Roanoke College has not only had a policy of admitting more Palestinian students, but has also accepted students from many other parts of the globe, because they bring different perspectives to enrich the whole college community.    Presently there are six Palestinian students at Roanoke College, most of whom are Hope Fund students.  </p>
<p>	The official Palestinian political entity which the United States and the world recognize is the Palestinian Authority, which, while not a state, governs  the West Bank and Gaza in the shadow of the armed might of the Israeli military,  the expansion of Israeli settlements, and crushing Israeli restrictions on Palestinian life.    Any peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians will be between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority, whose flag is the Palestinian flag being flown at Roanoke College. </p>
<p>	Between 1947 and 1949 the Israelis expelled the Palestinians, who feared for their lives, from their homeland with no compensation for their property.  The Palestinians  fled to the surrounding Arab states who were then just emerging from a colonial status.  Outside of Jordan the Palestinians have not been absorbed into the structure of Arab society in their host countries.   The political order in the Middle East is a delicate balance between different communities who each maintain their own identity.  The community, not the individual, is what determines one’s status. Many educated Palestinians emigrated to the United States, Europe, and other countries.  Those that settled in other  Arab lands did not become citizens of those states.  Many Palestinians – particularly the well educated – have found work in the Gulf, but they remain Palestinians and not many are citizens of Gulf countries.     If political relations sour between the Arab host country and the Palestinian Authority, all Palestinians in that country can be expelled as what happened with Libya and also with Kuwait during the first Gulf War.   Thus Palestinians move around and oftentimes our students were born outside Palestine, but now reside there.  </p>
<p>Many Palestinians working abroad send money home to their families, who often live in squalid refugee camps.  In Lebanon the Palestinians live in their own enclaves called camps, which they administer – not the Lebanese government.  Even if they were born in Lebanon,  Palestinians are not citizens.  In fact they cannot own property and most desirable jobs are denied them.  They attend United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)  schools  and not Lebanese schools.  Palestinians do not have Lebanese passports, but instead have a laissez passé document.  In the past our students have carried the Lebanese – and not the Palestinian flag – at events at Roanoke College, even though they were not Lebanese citizens.  </p>
<p>	Jordan has given citizenship to some Palestinians from the West Bank, because Jordan once controlled that area, but Jordan ignores Palestinians from former Egyptian controlled Gaza.  These are left in squalid, miserable camps .  The Egyptians control their border with Gaza and  decide which Gazans can cross into Egypt.   They do not want a flood of Palestinians.</p>
<p>	Thus Arab states do not see the Palestinians as their   domestic problem.    They sympathize and support the Palestinian cause, but not on their turf, since they can upset the political balance in the country as what happened in Lebanon before the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the early 1980’s.    Instead to them it is Israel’s problem, since they were the ones that drove  out the Palestinians. </p>
<p> So many Palestinians have become a landless and stateless people living in the diaspora.   While  Palestinian society is fractured between various states,  they have maintained their unique identity and long for a return to their homeland.  Above all they yearn for justice and a vindication for what happened to them.  They want their own identity,  dignity and land as symbolized in their flag.    </p>
<p>							Nancy F. Qubain<br />
							Lexington, Virginia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by John Archer</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-5091</link>
		<dc:creator>John Archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sentiment would be just fine if the letter writer had kept it to the subject of Roanoke College not taking a political stance.  Instead, the writer felt the need to disparage the people who might be in favor of a Palestinian state.  Whatever your viewpoint is on Middle East politics, it does your cause no good if you use it as a cudgel for every argument you come across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sentiment would be just fine if the letter writer had kept it to the subject of Roanoke College not taking a political stance.  Instead, the writer felt the need to disparage the people who might be in favor of a Palestinian state.  Whatever your viewpoint is on Middle East politics, it does your cause no good if you use it as a cudgel for every argument you come across.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by mohamad el charfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mohamad el charfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm Palestine is a nation, have you heard heard of palestinians?palestine attacks israel? Have u read the bible? Its mentioned there that the land is called palestine and not israel hence israelis occupied it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm Palestine is a nation, have you heard heard of palestinians?palestine attacks israel? Have u read the bible? Its mentioned there that the land is called palestine and not israel hence israelis occupied it??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by anonymous</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-5040</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you say that RC is not being neutral when you are a politically affiliated organization demanding that it be taken down? The palestinian students here are not terrorists and flying the flag doesn&#039;t mean Roanoke College supports a terrorist nation either. This just means that Roanoke supports its students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you say that RC is not being neutral when you are a politically affiliated organization demanding that it be taken down? The palestinian students here are not terrorists and flying the flag doesn&#8217;t mean Roanoke College supports a terrorist nation either. This just means that Roanoke supports its students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Mateo Cadavid</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4992</link>
		<dc:creator>Mateo Cadavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most ignorant, disrespectful and narrow minded thing I have ever read in my entire life. Yes I consider myself a republican and yes my family moved to this country because of all the freedoms that we now share. I respect the fact that you can say what you want because that is one of our many shared freedoms, so now let me exercise my freedom of speech. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND OPEN YOUR EYES, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT YOU SOUND WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THIS? YOU ARE ALSO MAKING A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK BAD BY PRETENDING THAT THERE IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT YOUR VIEWS WHEN YOU ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT FEELS THIS WAY. I call for the Palestinian flag to stay up for a very long time to show that our school supports our students, my friends, and embrace their backgrounds no matter what country they are from. When it is time for the Palestinian flag to be changed in order to put up another from one of the many countries that our student body represents I will call for the Colombian flag to go up next. Because that is my home country and it is another freedom that I intend on exercising.

-Mateo Cadavid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most ignorant, disrespectful and narrow minded thing I have ever read in my entire life. Yes I consider myself a republican and yes my family moved to this country because of all the freedoms that we now share. I respect the fact that you can say what you want because that is one of our many shared freedoms, so now let me exercise my freedom of speech. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND OPEN YOUR EYES, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT YOU SOUND WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THIS? YOU ARE ALSO MAKING A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK BAD BY PRETENDING THAT THERE IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT YOUR VIEWS WHEN YOU ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT FEELS THIS WAY. I call for the Palestinian flag to stay up for a very long time to show that our school supports our students, my friends, and embrace their backgrounds no matter what country they are from. When it is time for the Palestinian flag to be changed in order to put up another from one of the many countries that our student body represents I will call for the Colombian flag to go up next. Because that is my home country and it is another freedom that I intend on exercising.</p>
<p>-Mateo Cadavid</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Bruce Rowe</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea, I was being facetious. All my reponses were in response to the comment &quot;For everyone who has never heard about which flags are flown on the back quad the college flies the American, Virginia, College, and ELCA flags and on the fifth pole rotates between the flags of the various nations from which our international students hail&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea, I was being facetious. All my reponses were in response to the comment &#8220;For everyone who has never heard about which flags are flown on the back quad the college flies the American, Virginia, College, and ELCA flags and on the fifth pole rotates between the flags of the various nations from which our international students hail&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Colin Dwyer</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4988</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest College Republicans of Roanoke College,

While I typically lean towards republican ideals and had recently become a member of your organization, this letter is so disgustingly ignorant and bigoted that I am lead to not only craft this distaste-filled post, but also to terminate my membership.

These seven students of OURS identify themselves as Palestinian and that&#039;s the only recognition that matters.

If this letter is written by any one member of the College Republicans and is not necessarily representative of the entirety of the group, I would suggest he or she step forward and claim responsibility for calling his or her fellow students terrorists with no premise. If you do not do so, you&#039;re only undermining the integrity and reputation of the whole group, and stripping it of any legitimacy it may have once had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest College Republicans of Roanoke College,</p>
<p>While I typically lean towards republican ideals and had recently become a member of your organization, this letter is so disgustingly ignorant and bigoted that I am lead to not only craft this distaste-filled post, but also to terminate my membership.</p>
<p>These seven students of OURS identify themselves as Palestinian and that&#8217;s the only recognition that matters.</p>
<p>If this letter is written by any one member of the College Republicans and is not necessarily representative of the entirety of the group, I would suggest he or she step forward and claim responsibility for calling his or her fellow students terrorists with no premise. If you do not do so, you&#8217;re only undermining the integrity and reputation of the whole group, and stripping it of any legitimacy it may have once had.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Bruce Rowe</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We fly an international flag because why? Do we have any international students from Palestine? Also has the college ever flown a flag from a country that we haven&#039;t had a student from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We fly an international flag because why? Do we have any international students from Palestine? Also has the college ever flown a flag from a country that we haven&#8217;t had a student from?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Luis</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is undemocratic and sad that the US supports Israel like it does, it is clear that Israel commits crimes against humanity, and that it is an occupying power, punishing the people of gaza as if all of the Palestinians were terrorist. The people of Palestine deserve a contry like any other citizen in the world,there are thousands of families suffering in the most precarious situations in Gaza, while Israel settlements keep expanding and enjoy economical porsperty, violating international law. Is that fair? It is in fact the responsability of us college students to keep fighting for peace and to support the Palestinian cause so one day there is peace in the region. Your letter to  the editor not only reflects that you know very little of the subject, but also your very narrow ethnocentric point of view and your disregard and disrespect for all those Palestinians that are suffering and struggling for the privileges you enjoy everyday...so please have some respect and let the flag wave, which goes beyond political statements and is a sweet reference to someone about family, hope and homeland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is undemocratic and sad that the US supports Israel like it does, it is clear that Israel commits crimes against humanity, and that it is an occupying power, punishing the people of gaza as if all of the Palestinians were terrorist. The people of Palestine deserve a contry like any other citizen in the world,there are thousands of families suffering in the most precarious situations in Gaza, while Israel settlements keep expanding and enjoy economical porsperty, violating international law. Is that fair? It is in fact the responsability of us college students to keep fighting for peace and to support the Palestinian cause so one day there is peace in the region. Your letter to  the editor not only reflects that you know very little of the subject, but also your very narrow ethnocentric point of view and your disregard and disrespect for all those Palestinians that are suffering and struggling for the privileges you enjoy everyday&#8230;so please have some respect and let the flag wave, which goes beyond political statements and is a sweet reference to someone about family, hope and homeland.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the editor by Courtney Francisco</title>
		<link>http://brackety-ack.com/2012/02/03/letter-to-the-editor-3/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney Francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is abdsurd. Just because the college has agreed to fly the flag doesn&#039;t mean that they are taking a monumental political stand, it simply means that they are representing their students, specifically here the students from Palestine, which takes up a large portion of our international population here at Roanoke College. By not flying the flag, Roanoke College is taking a political stand as well, so I think the point here is that not everything has to have a political message. The Palestinian students on campus are very successful here and contribute a lot to our college, so to not give them the respect they deserve is absolutely ridiculous. Our college should stand not on the side of Democrat or Republican, but rather on the side of its students, who should all be represented equally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is abdsurd. Just because the college has agreed to fly the flag doesn&#8217;t mean that they are taking a monumental political stand, it simply means that they are representing their students, specifically here the students from Palestine, which takes up a large portion of our international population here at Roanoke College. By not flying the flag, Roanoke College is taking a political stand as well, so I think the point here is that not everything has to have a political message. The Palestinian students on campus are very successful here and contribute a lot to our college, so to not give them the respect they deserve is absolutely ridiculous. Our college should stand not on the side of Democrat or Republican, but rather on the side of its students, who should all be represented equally.</p>
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